Cynthia McKinney Interviewed on Far-Right Racist Radio Program
Continuing to increase her political connections with the extreme far right (as I documented hereand here), former U.S. Representative and 2008 Green Party presidential candidate Cynthia McKinney has appeared on a far-right, anti-Semitic internet radio program. On April 30, she was interviewed for over an hour on the "The Information Underground" by the program's host, who calls himself "Ognir".
A cached version of the program's archive is available here. Previous broadcasts of the show have titles such as "Jewish Domination and the World as we know it", "Crimes of the Zionists", "the Zionist Criminal Network", "Jewish takeover of Christianity", "Eugenocide", "The International Jews Bankers" (sic), "Jewish Worldwide Propaganda System", "Jews Behind Every Rock", and "Jews Israel and 9/11". The program has featured guests such as Brother NathanaelKapner of "Real Jew News" (read here. Kapner's website has recently changed its "Real Jew News" logo to read "Real Zionist News". Nice touch. Now about that URL.), racist internet radio host Michael Delaney, aka Prothink (read here and here), hate rapper/blogger Khanverse (readhere and here), Israel Shamir (read here), Michele Renouf (read here), and fascist blogger Daryl Bradford Smith of iamthewitness.com (read here).
An mp3 of the interview is available here. Here's an excerpt from the transcript of the McKinney interview from the show's website where McKinney blames a spy for defeating her reelection to Congress (read here):
Q: I called Washington the “District of Criminals,” a “viper pit.” Now, you’vesurvived, Congresswoman, six terms there. Can you give us some detail of, which is quite obvious if you look into it, you have an open-mind, that Washington is under a state, that Washington, DC, is under a state of siege by a very powerful group. You named them a pro-Israel group. Can you give me some more details about theharrassment (sic) that over your twelve years you suffered?
McKinney: Well if I were to give an accounting I would think I would use up ALL of your time that you have allotted; I think that what I’ll do is I’ll pick one story that could be illustrative of some of the things that happened. During the 2002 re-election campaign, there was a gentleman who was in my campaign headquarters, who identified himself as an observer, a political observer of our campaign, and he would sit in a rocking chair with my father at the campaign headquarters and they would share stories about the campaign, the state of politics, and that sort of thing. Thisgentelman (sic) be-friended (sic) my FATHER; well, after the election was over and all kinds of things happened, like the loss of the keys to the vans that would transport people, to the loss of the phones from the phone-banking room that was an off-site place that no one was supposed to know the location of, this particular gentleman who had identified himself as a stateless Palestinian went on the television and announced himself as the Southern Regional Buraeu (sic) Chief for one of the pro-Israel organizations. So our campaign was disrupted and TOTALLY disrupted, particularly on election day, and that was the link; we didn’t know until election but then this particular volunteer showed-up on television…
Q: Can you put a name to this guy; is this guy still around?...
McKinney: I don’t know if he’s still around, but he ended-up being a member of the Anti-Defamation League. There are MANY pro-Israel organizations that have a political impact and conduct political business, and the Anti-Defamation League is one of them, you have the American-Israeli Public Affairs Committee is another one of them, and those are among the better known politcal (sic) organizations."
At about 39:40 in the mp3 of the broadcast, the host begins a rambling discourse on the question "who is more powerful in Washington, D.C. than the president?" Here's a portion of the Q and A:
Q: I have the name of a guy who joined the army in 1991 during the first Gulf War. I have reviewed several videos (of?) the former PR guy for the Democrats, Dick Morris. Morris said that Bill Clinton was afraid of only one guy and it was this guy. He's got Jew nationality and Jew loyalties. The name "Megef" (?) comes to mind when I talk about this guy, Rahm Emanuel. Is there somebody giving more instructions to Rahm Emanuel or am I completely way off?
McKinney: I think that what you're talking about is who controls the U.S. government. There are people in the front and the American people go through the exercise of electing their representatives on every level, including congressional and the presidency. But who really calls the shots? And I think one could look at my career, honestly, and say "well, maybe it's not Congress who are making the policy". And you can just look at the monied interests . . . the special interests. The special interests basically rule. And the people take a back seat to the special interests.
The job of the two political parties that are captives of the special interests is to trick the people into believing that they represent the values of the various political spectra (sic) in the population, when, in actuality, they don't. That's why I walked away from the Democratic Party.
At about 54:10 of the interview, McKinney says the following:
McKinney: Osama bin Laden is not wanted by the FBI. If you know the relationship of former administrations to the bin Laden family, this just begs for independent investigation.
At 56:04 of the interview, the interlocutor poses a rambling question about 9/11:
Q: Late in the evening (of 9/11), early morning, you're presented a 572 page document that is prepared well in advance based on certain manipulations and certain directions of Benjamin Netanyahu. What were the congressmen saying? They handed you a bill and said "sign this to protect ourselves" (sic) ... What happens in the few hours leading up to the passage of the Patriot Act?
McKinney's extensive response in no way disabuses the questioner of his notion that the Patriot Act was passed within hours of the 9/11 attacks, or that it was in some way brought about by Benjamin Netanyahu. At about 59:45 of the mp3, her response gets to this:
McKinney: (The) people are marginalized, left out, and alienated, and lied to, (by) all the forces of division -- the balkanization of the American electorate, to allow a smaller group of people able to eventually control the politics of the whole.
McKinney then launches into her version of Matthias Chang's theory that an elite group (which Chang openly identifies as Jewish) is deliberately destablizing the world economy to create an oligarchy in the U.S equivalent to that of early post-Soviet Russia.
The interviewer then asks a question concerning McKinney's assertions that George Bush knew of the 9/11 attacks before they occurred. He outlines a byzantine 9/11 conspiracy theory involving the Bush administration, CIA and Pakistani ISI -- the names Jack Abramoff, George Tenet, Porter Goss, John Kyl, John Kerry, Joe Biden and Lindsay Graham enter into it. He claims that they were all in on a Pakistani plot to give funds to Mohammed Atta. McKinney does not disagree.
McKinney: Well there are a lot of unanswered questions. And the family members of the direct victims of the tragedies have unanswered questions. I think that these covert activities that the United States is engaged in should not be covert. And I would argue that we don't need to engage in this kind of behavior.
McKinney and her host go on to a discussion of the international drug trade. The host outlines the drugs coming into the U.S. from various countries, then outlines the nations involved in combat overseas. Then he gets to his point:
Q: It seems to be that they are intent on seeing that they're there to make sure that there's no breakage in the supply of drugs to the rest of the youngsters of the world -- that they're going to be infected with this sickness of heroin and cocaine . . . Our young people are severely under attack via these political Zionistic attitudes towards the rest of the world. There is no humanity to these people. This is obvious when we apply this to Washington. You said it yourself: (there is) 1% -- if you're lucky -- of honest American politicians actually fighting for the American people that they're supposed to be representing. And we have this overall infection of control by external sources. You can call them lobbyists and special interests.
Again, as usual, McKinney does not disagree.
This interview follows what has become McKinney's usual method of endorsing outrageous anti-Semitic conspiracy theories. She does this by allowing her interviewer or the authors of books she endorses to outline these theories for her. Her responses are supportive of these views, but visibly so only in the context of the interview or by reference to the books she touts. Outside of these contexts, she presents, to the inattentive, a simulacrum of political normality.
The interview is part of what appears to be a new far-right strategy for McKinney, coming fresh on the heels of her recent endorsement of the Matthias Chang's trilogy of fascist conspiracy theory books called the FastForward Trilogy, her participation in several of Chang's anti-Israel conferences and her endorsement of the bizarre anti-Semitic conspiracy theorist David Pidcock, formerly an Islamist politician who referred to himself as "The Leader".
McKinney has not publicly addressed her connections to the far right.