tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4718120950252476804.post330804409866627584..comments2023-12-28T09:21:30.579-05:00Comments on Adam Holland: Ron Paul forum anti-SemitismAdam Hollandhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06245468599571473818noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4718120950252476804.post-88700089244359857062013-08-08T12:47:49.775-04:002013-08-08T12:47:49.775-04:00As a Jewish person the Zionist make me cringe. The...As a Jewish person the Zionist make me cringe. The anti defamation league has heavily backed the LGBT and they both are basically the same people. Yet Abe Foxman as Judaism it self says in Leviticus , homosexuality is an abomination! So why are Jews promoting this?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4718120950252476804.post-40360014544930609222011-08-20T02:25:44.320-04:002011-08-20T02:25:44.320-04:00Here is another Gem From the Ron Paul Forums: The ...Here is another Gem From the Ron Paul Forums: The writers name is "QE is Theft" and his recent quote is "I fear that the Zionist's will freak out at some point (they're very paranoid) and start WWIII, even if in doing so, knowing they will bring about their own destruction (see Samson Doctrine). <br /><br />To say that Israel is a danger to the world is an understatement. <br /><br />They are bar-none the biggest threat to global security given their ideology, location, weaponry, and predisposition towards paranoia.<br /><br />Hopefully, NORAD has them at the top of the list of countries to watch, and not Iran, or some other Muslim nation." <br /><br />It seems like Ron paul supporters love anyoen who hates Israel as much as they do. That includes Iran, the president of Iran, the palistenians and so on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4718120950252476804.post-66909672054326009012010-10-25T06:01:38.753-04:002010-10-25T06:01:38.753-04:00What antivirus do you use? Or antispyware.What antivirus do you use? Or antispyware.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4718120950252476804.post-84923734554877678292009-08-01T00:48:32.269-04:002009-08-01T00:48:32.269-04:00Anonymous:
"Thank you" for "commen...Anonymous:<br /><br />"Thank you" for "commenting".<br /><br />I'm sure that everyone who reads your comment will be praying for you.Adam Hollandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06245468599571473818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4718120950252476804.post-73647666781228280622009-08-01T00:22:37.086-04:002009-08-01T00:22:37.086-04:00"HATE BILL"-OBSESSED CONGRESS
If &..."HATE BILL"-OBSESSED CONGRESS<br /><br /> If "hate bill"-obsessed Congress [and Obama] can't protect Christians from "gays" as much as it wants to protect "gays" from Christians, will Congress be surprised if it can't protect itself from most everyone?<br /> If "hate bills" are forced on captive Americans, they'll still find ways to sneakily continue to "plant" Biblical messages everywhere. By doing so they'll hasten God's judgment on their oppressors as revealed in Proverbs 19:1.<br /> (See related web items including "David Letterman's Hate, Etc.," "Separation of Raunch and State," "Michael the Narc-Angel," "Obama Avoids Bible Verses," and "Tribulation Index becomes Rapture Index.")<br /> Since Congress can't seem to legislate "morality," it's making up for it by legislating "immorality"!<br /><br /> [We are a longtime ministry specializing in airing unique articles such as the ones above. Please pray for us!]Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4718120950252476804.post-259834197130575852009-07-30T00:27:52.106-04:002009-07-30T00:27:52.106-04:00>"Oldguy" basically asks - "Why ...>"Oldguy" basically asks - "Why does Ron Paul attract these types?". The answer is simple - they find something attractive in the message. For example, they may like the anti-Fed message.<<br />@Dan<br />You know what?<br />I ain't buying it.<br />If you think Ron Paul was the only one in history to have an "anti-fed" history then I got a bridge to sell you.<br />I know for a fact that anti-Semites aren't one issue believers, it's the whole package they support and Ron Paul has had some pretty unsavory associations in the past.<br />I'm over 50 years old, my memories go back a couple 3-4 decades and Ron Pauls history goes back even further.<br />This last year wasn't the first time I have ever heard of him. He was considered a crack pot then, and as far as I can tell, anyone who remembers him from the 70's feels the same way.<br />Since seniors do the heavy lifting when it comes to voting RP will be long gone before he'll ever be in a position to damage this country.<br />Give it up and search for an honorable cause, because Ron Paul and a few of his stolen ideas ain't it.oldguyhttp://www.outcastweb.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4718120950252476804.post-28565041692556738062009-07-29T15:50:32.670-04:002009-07-29T15:50:32.670-04:00I've responded to Dan's comment in a new p...I've responded to Dan's comment in a new post <a href="http://adamholland.blogspot.com/2009/07/response-to-ron-paul-supporters.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>. "Join the Ron Paul Revolution" gets a mention there as well.Adam Hollandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06245468599571473818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4718120950252476804.post-50338918247502180912009-07-29T11:46:45.874-04:002009-07-29T11:46:45.874-04:00So now talking about how 100 Palestinians were mur...So now talking about how 100 Palestinians were murdered by Israelis during "Deir Yassin" is antisemitism?.....Discussing the Lavon Affair(which the Israeli gov't finally admitted to a couple years ago) is AntiSemitism?.....For every item of food that has a Kosher label, the Company(Rabbi's) that certifies its Kosher does get a small tax..You think that money goes to Gentiles?.........Talking about the numerous attrocities committed by the Israeli Gov't is now anti-semitism?..As numerous Jewish/Zionist organizations have made a recent decision to equate "Anti-Zionism is now Anti-Semitism"..Since Anti Semitism is now at such a small, insignificant level, this is what Jewish Supremacist organizations are forced to do, to get their message out & get donations..Find the most extreme, over the Top anti semitic comments on a Board somewhere, take very valid complaints about Zionist organizations, throw it all together w/ your pro Israeli racist views, and try to take down someone like Ron Paul who is Anti-War, & against giving Israel 3+ billion a year to support their Brutal, apartheid Occupation over the poor, indigineous Palestinians.....Mr. Adam Holland, why don't you take each issue by one by one, and explain why EXACTLY each criticism is FACTUALLY WRONG...Stop w/ your Hyperbole & Propaganda..Throw out some facts, if you have them...Join the Ron Paul Revolutionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02196033801432135069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4718120950252476804.post-47457456505974641162009-07-29T05:32:23.704-04:002009-07-29T05:32:23.704-04:00Adam,
You went looking for anti-semites on open p...Adam,<br /><br />You went looking for anti-semites on open political forums and (surprise) you found them.<br /><br />You could do the same using any common search engine. You can find plenty of anti-semitic rants using google, yahoo, it does not matter.<br /><br />But you didn't. You went to C4L and other sites affiliated with Ron Paul. After finding anti-semitic rants and forums on those sites you then disparage the small government, pro-liberty, anti-interventionist wing of the Republican party. <br /><br />I say disparage. "Oldguy" speaks of nuts. "Beth" speaks of Paultards (and more nuts). Another fellow speaks of a cult. <br /><br />I don't know if this means much to you but you are engaging in a rhetorical fallacy given the rather over-the-top name of "Affirming the Consequent". The attempt to smear politicians using guilt-by-association with unattractive supporters is old. I discuss it a bit in a (too) longish blog of my own - see http://web.me.com/dhansen/Site/Blog/Entries/2009/7/5_Poor_Logic_in_Politics_(I).html<br /><br />Ron Paul is no anti-semite. Several core economists of the movement were and are Jewish (Rothbard, von Mises, Block). And you will find plenty of people in the community that find the message of individual freedom and small government to be very compelling.<br /><br />"Oldguy" basically asks - "Why does Ron Paul attract these types?". The answer is simple - they find something attractive in the message. For example, they may like the anti-Fed message.<br /><br />Regardless, Paul's reason for disliking the Fed is based solely on reasons deriving from his views on monetary policy and his political philosophy.<br /><br />Why do your anti-semites dislike the Fed? You've been spending some quality time reading (and cutting and pasting) their comments. I think you can figure it out. It doesn't have much to do monetary policy, does it? <br /><br />So they may support him - but for their own reasons that generally have nothing to do with the movement as a whole. <br /><br />Presuming that you are trying to have a serious discussion of the small government wing of the Republican party then you do Dr. Paul and yourself a disservice by engaging in this sort of poor logic. It turns your article into a simple ad hominem hit piece.<br /><br />Now, if that's actually your intent then I've wasted my time. Hopefully not. Hopefully you'll take a look at what the political movement is all and see if there is some common ground that we can work together towards. Say, getting the Fed transparency bill passed.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13849152669006411218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4718120950252476804.post-82512391627722728042009-07-28T23:40:25.140-04:002009-07-28T23:40:25.140-04:00@Beth
I guess I just had no idea that it was that ...@Beth<br />I guess I just had no idea that it was that pervasive.<br />I mean I was exposed to bigotry when I was very young, I have a vague memory of segregated water fountains when passing through Texas as a child.<br />But the whole "Jews are evil" thing I never really had any experience with.<br />To be honest with you I really don't understand the animosity. I mean what is it?<br />Envy that maybe someone who is Jewish does well with his business. I have nothing against success no matter who has it.<br />Is it the whole Crucifixion thing?<br />Pilate sent Jesus to the cross and according to scripture it was preordained.<br />For Christianity to work he couldn't and shouldn't have been saved even if someone wanted to.<br />The only thing I can come to from reading about it is that Jews have been vilified throughout history because they are "other". <br />So why is it OK to be tolerant of other cultures except Israel and the Jews?<br />Maybe I'm missing something but I have never understood this preoccupation with Jews conspiring to take over the world.Oldguyhttp://www.outcastweb.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4718120950252476804.post-8942094097360209452009-07-28T21:08:17.049-04:002009-07-28T21:08:17.049-04:00@Oldguy:
Sometimes I think we've never been e...@Oldguy:<br /><br />Sometimes I think we've never been exposed to this much anti-Semitism until recently <i>because</i> of the internet. In the past, the lunatics were isolated; now they can find the like-minded kooks and make noise. <br /><br />Ron Paul probably attracts these crazies because of his anti-Federal Reserve fetish and his idolatry w/r/t the Constitution. (Not that the Constitution should be ignored or dismissed, not at all.) But his consistent ethos of "X is/should be illegal because it's not specifically provided for in the Constitution" is just plain nuts, and it's the same tripe spewed by these anti-Semitic extremists and conspiracy theorists.Bethnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4718120950252476804.post-22716498223776585172009-07-28T21:00:32.192-04:002009-07-28T21:00:32.192-04:00Any time I start to think Obama's election was...Any time I start to think Obama's election was the worst possible outcome of 2008, all I have to do is be reminded of how batsh*t insane the Paultards are, and how he feeds their insanity.<br /> <br />Nevermind the fact that he is right on a few issues; like a broken clock, even the worst of the worst despots and cranks get some things right on occasion. <br /><br />(Of course, a caveat: Obama's election really <i>was</i> the worst POSSIBLE outcome - Ron Paul never had a chance, <i>thank God</i>.)Bethnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4718120950252476804.post-68929610484554714612009-07-28T20:57:01.100-04:002009-07-28T20:57:01.100-04:00Maybe I've led a sheltered life but what the J...Maybe I've led a sheltered life but what the Jewish people have done/do is way low on the list of my priorities.<br />I'm over 5 decades old and have never been exposed to such virulent anti-semitism as what exists on the web.<br />And it seemed to ramp up even more when Ron Paul was running.<br /><br />People need to ask the question why does Ron Paul attract these types?Oldguyhttp://www.outcastweb.com/noreply@blogger.com