tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4718120950252476804.post1444890224488094029..comments2023-12-28T09:21:30.579-05:00Comments on Adam Holland: So wrong on so many levelsAdam Hollandhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06245468599571473818noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4718120950252476804.post-8575451342335349092011-01-18T02:42:43.406-05:002011-01-18T02:42:43.406-05:00You have no facts Adam, only your liberalism.
&qu...You have no facts Adam, only your liberalism.<br /><br />"That doesn't mean he wants Sharia imposed on the entire nation."<br /><br />Yes, that is what he wants.<br /><br />"It also would not be a violation of church-state separation to have <b>a subsidiary entity within the judiciary</b> that employs religious jurists from diverse religious backgrounds to comment on the compliance of certain decisions with their religious views and to provide guidance to their religious communities on how kosher or Shariah compliant these decisions are. ' - Feisal Abdul Rauf <br /><br />"America is Sharia compliant . . ."<br /><br />"America is an Islamic country . . ."<br /><br />There are many other examples of this. Feisal clearly intends to inject Sharia into American society, and government.<br /><br />Feisal does not speak for all Muslims. You should not be treating him as if he did.<br /><br />This is about one man, his friends, and their vision of the future of this country.<br /><br />You have no interest in this story, and should just say so, rather than assuming some pose of being an advocate for freedom.<br /><br />When someone like Adam Holland won't read a book, it is time to jump off the liberal bandwagon.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04205029127319846424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4718120950252476804.post-75702664606753591082010-12-10T12:46:08.223-05:002010-12-10T12:46:08.223-05:00livingengine: OK.
First, he's not a "f...livingengine: OK. <br /><br />First, he's not a "fanatic supporter of Sharia law", as you claim. That's not supported by the evidence. Insofar as he's a religious Muslim, of course he believes in Sharia just as a religious Jew believes in halacha and a religious Catholic believes in canon law. That doesn't mean he wants Sharia imposed on the entire nation.<br /><br />Second, Feisel may or may not have dissembled about his ties to Mahathir, as I have written previously. (Maybe you didn't read that post.) I have said and I say now that he should address his connections to Mahathir's cynically motivated "anti-war" group to clarify this.<br /><br />With respect to his real estate and financial dealings, I don't know about them so I can't really comment. If what you say is true, shame on him; if not, shame on you. Either way, I don't think that it's germane to the question of whether a mosque should be allowed to operate near the World Trade Center.<br /><br />I don't feel that I have the right to demand that Feisel agree with me about politics or religion as a condition of being a clergyman in Lower Manhattan. Why others feel they have that authority is beyond me. Do they really want a government that operates like that? Maybe they haven't really thought the issue through.<br /><br />In response to your questions, I have a question for you: why would you impose a stricter set of criteria for this project than you would for any other? The answer to that gets to the root of the problem with the whole anti-mosque movement; that is, it's anti-Muslim. To say otherwise is to deny the obvious.<br /><br />You think my motivation for supporting this project is rooted in a desire to maintain my status as a liberal. Have you considered the most obvious explanation? I <i>am</i> a liberal. I actually believe in freedom of religion. I actually believe that religions and other groups should get along with each other. May we all live long enough to see such obviously true ideas come to fruition everywhere. In the meantime, let's do our best to let them flourish here.Adam Hollandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06245468599571473818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4718120950252476804.post-43954179125115572922010-12-09T19:13:48.031-05:002010-12-09T19:13:48.031-05:00Adam, I am still waiting for you to comment on Fei...Adam, I am still waiting for you to comment on Feisal's book, his fanaticism over Sharia law, his stated goal of transforming the country in ten years, his CNN interview, his dissembling about Mahathir, his being a slumlord, and tax cheat, in short, his unrelenting dishonesty, and hostility. <br /><br />You ignore all of this just so you can retain your "liberal" credentials.<br /><br />You will live long enough to see the product of your folly, and may you remember this comment.<br /><br />SHAME ON YOU.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04205029127319846424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4718120950252476804.post-49446368006589812232010-07-29T04:47:52.270-04:002010-07-29T04:47:52.270-04:00You speak of the mosque imam family renouncing &qu...You speak of the mosque imam family renouncing "Hamas terrorism" but what about Hamas ideology? Do ask them, whether they renounce that?<br /><br />You write of "hate speech against innocent people" but would you consider it such if someone would oppose "innocent" followers of SS-ideology, personally not (yet) involved in any specific "terrorist" activity? <br /><br />Is the ideology of Supremacy and Political Domination of Aryans (or Muslims) not, in itself, enough?<br /><br />Is it?Will48noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4718120950252476804.post-9373050288294808042010-07-29T04:39:31.979-04:002010-07-29T04:39:31.979-04:00You also imply that they chose that building for t...You also imply that they chose that building for the new site for their mosque out of financial considerations.<br /><br />But it was reported that they bought it for $5-8 million, and plan to spend upwards of $100 million in renovations, so it would seem this argument is false too.Will48noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4718120950252476804.post-17884226726904571682010-07-29T04:35:47.451-04:002010-07-29T04:35:47.451-04:00Your support for the Ground Zero Mosque you base o...Your support for the Ground Zero Mosque you base on the claim that "the congregation associated with the project have been in the neighborhood for over 25 years".<br /><br />But Pamela Geller wrote that this is not true, and most of the visitors to that mosque come from far away neighborhoods especially.<br /><br />I don't think she's a liar, and neither do I think that about you, but she does provide specific references in support of her claim, and you just make a general statement here, so it seems you're just misinformed, mislead by your own good intentions, eager to believe in peaceful intentions of Muslims behind that project.<br /><br />But whenever a Muslim claims to support "peace" you should inquire whether it is a Peace for the Believers he has in mind, or Peace for the Infidels (not likely). Dont forget the two biggest "fighters for peace" too, Arafat and - yes - Hitler. Both were big on "Just Peace". "No justice, no peace", I'm sure you're familiar with that leftist slogan. <br /><br />We should not translate words by their intended meanings in _our_ culture, but rather in culture they originated from. Honor, and Peace in Arabic/Muslim has nothing to do with Honor and Peace in English.<br /><br />You also make positive reference to "pacifism" in passing, as if obvious. What should have become obvious for any people of conscience long time ago, is that pacifism is evil, because it fawns to dictators and enables aggressors to gather strength, by demanding - of others - suicidal non-violence, even in self-defense.<br /><br />You can consult history on the impact of French and British "pacifists" pre-WWII for more background.Will48http://reasonresponsibilityandchoice.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4718120950252476804.post-2449409253134418002010-07-29T03:04:59.762-04:002010-07-29T03:04:59.762-04:00But you SHOULD be angry and fearful - because the ...But you SHOULD be angry and fearful - because the Jihad war WAS declared on us by _them_. And here _them_ does not refer to Al-Qaeda only, leaving out Hamas, Hezbollah, IRGC, Muslim Brotherhood and other salafist movements. No, the war was declared on us on behalf of ALL of them JIHADI Muslims.<br /><br />And that's the only distinction you can make among Muslims without denying the Reality As It Is. Which is, the reality of Jihad global war declared by Bin Laden on behalf of all the Jihadi Muslims, against the Free World (a.k.a. the West) - which proclamation they all heartily embrace and support. <br /><br />Some might argue that Jihad is an inseparable part of Islam. In fact any Muslim cleric will do so, only they will try to sell you (in English) the BS of "inner struggle" Jihad. That is a demosntrable falsehood since more than 90% of Jihad references in Koran and Hadiths are to war-Jihad, not any inner struggle, which in reality just comes down to some (mainly wealthy) getting a pass from fighting the war themselves by making donations to it. So their "inner struggle" is to part with money - on condition that it goes to fund the actual Jihad war against the infidels.<br /><br />There is a reason why _the_ bestseller in the Arab World, Mein Kampf, is translated as My Jihad into Arabic. It is because his "struggle" is exactly what Jihad is.<br /><br />To conclude, the litmust test is simple and clear: any Muslim that rejects Jihad war can not indeed be held responsible for the Jihad atrocities. The problem is, you won't find many such muslims. Those that do denounce Jihad war for Domination and Muslim Supremacy, are our allies and dear friends. And by "us" I mean, the Free World - those in it that are sane, and not choosing to live in denial just to hold on to their pink-tinted glasses a little bit longer.<br /><br />If WWII were to teach Humanity anything, it is that Evil is to be confronted head on, as early as possible, until it gets a chance to become stronger by enslaving more and more minds while the pretenders and wishful thinkers pander to it by denying its Evil nature.<br /><br />The Jihad Islam IS our enemy.Will48http://reasonresponsibilityandchoice.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.com